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Ep. 109 - Stop Biohacking: Simple Tweaks For Real Health Results

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The wellness industry loves to push standard PDF diet plans and overnight magic pills, but generalized advice leaves desperate people exhausted and stuck. When the standard medical framework offers few answers for chronic, complex issues, it is easy to assume you have hit a dead end. We sit down with Brynn Davello, a certified functional nutritional therapy practitioner and GAPS practitioner, to break down why true systemic healing requires a completely tailored blueprint rather than a generic routine.

We get into the specific tactical shifts required to address chronic issues like autoimmune conditions, fertility struggles, and neurodevelopmental processing differences. Brynn shares her firsthand experience utilizing restrictive elimination protocols to manage severe symptoms, transitioning her family and clients away from highly processed options to dense whole foods. We dive into the concrete connection between blood sugar regulation and daily behavioral shifts, looking specifically at how metabolic crisis impacts focus and energy. You will learn the exact biological limitations of modern wellness trends, including how peptides function under the hood and why they fail long-term without baseline systemic changes.

The process of restoring your health requires confronting a few irritating logistics, from learning how to properly source whole foods at the grocery store to tracking your exact intake with an honest food and mood journal. True recovery is built on highly personalized, compounding daily victories rather than intense lifestyle overhauls that you secretly hate. Viewer value comes from understanding that what builds massive energy for someone else might be causing inflammation in your own gut.

If you care about metabolic health, long-term vitality, and actionable holistic nutrition, you’ll get a lot from this conversation. Subscribe and share to help us get these strategies to more founders and families looking for answers. Let us know in the comments: What is the single biggest habit shift you have made that actually improved your daily energy?

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Welcome

Welcome And Quick Introductions

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to the B Team Podcast. I am your host, Josh Stafford, with my co-host, Pat Morris, and our permanent guest, Rob Nelson. We're here every week to talk to you about all things Bettonville, urban, and business. The B Team Podcast. Be here. Welcome to the Beat Team Podcast. I'm your host, Josh Stafford, with my co-host, Matt.

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I'm not doing the last thing. I'm going to go like Jim. Oh, there you go. Oh, we're trendsetters, Rob. And our permanent guest? Robbie Bobby.

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And Jim. Wow. Threw me for a loop there. Kind of up. And we're here every Thursday for all things Bentonville business and bourbon. And because we're on script, we're going to go right to the right to the bourbon tasting.

Single Barrel Bourbon Taste Test

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What's it called again? I had to break one of my uh VIP bourbon dogs. This is uh Bobby's bourbon bonanza. That's a special pick from a local legend. Guest first. A little bourbon for you. A little nipper.

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There's only a few.

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All right.

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I'll take a little taste.

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Joshy.

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Good, good. Now, the last time we got together, you actually not just evaluated the bourbon, you evaluated the art on the bottle. I was like to hear your thoughts on what we've got.

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Should we go as out? Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. I mean, tell us a little bit about it. How old is it? Uh okay, so we got a Nashville Barrel Company single barrel. Uh personally picked by uh J.S. Bull. JS Bull, shout out to JS. Single barrel, straight weeded. Uh nine years. Straight weeded. Weeded straight weeded well or almost 111 proof. Uh so yeah, should be hot. Uh there's really not art on the front of the but the back has a nice, nice little architecture.

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Oh, you see that?

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Yeah, that would be Nashville.

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They did it their way. They did it their way. Yeah. Um, I I will say though, uh the the bottle's attractive, right? Got a nice little silver. Yeah, it's attractive, right? Nice little silver on the front. Silhouette, right? Yeah, okay. I I would rate it uh 3.2. Look, you never give it a five. I mean, clearly not.

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You gotta get you gotta blow it out of the water to get, you know. Clearly, someone listened to the last podcast because that gave everything a five.

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No, not a five is like, whoa. Three, two is like, okay, not bad. All right, yeah. Now for the now for the important thing. It's above average. Two and a half is halfway there. All right, now for the important thing. All right. We'll go with on the nose. On the nose. I'll be out there. It smells a little hot the smelling, yeah. 110? 110? Almost 111. See, I think it smells fantastic. It does, it does smell amazing to me. Yeah. Uh agreed. Because like the bad. Yeah. I give it a 3-9 on the nose. All right. Okay. 3-9. You know it. Okay. What was the last one on the nose? He liked the last one on the nose.

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No, he no, he liked the name. The last one he liked the nose. Yeah, yeah. But then the taste was a 2-9.

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Yeah. Or maybe even lower. Like 1-9. We won't talk about that, but it's uh tastes a little like dish soap.

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I said, I I like to think I bring the worst bourbons consistently.

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It's good. It's hot. It needs to open up. Yeah. Maybe drop of water. I mean, you could put a little bit of the uh drop of water.

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Saratoga. Shout out.

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But yeah, but for as hot as it is, it's smooth. I'd give it a four. Whoa, whoa. That's pretty hot. That's a big score. Yeah, I'd give it a four. What do you think? You know, I think we're gonna let Josh on the airplane next week.

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Got my husband drinking bourbon.

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Uh-huh. Okay.

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And now he makes me try all the bourbons at home, and I hate them. And I came to Jens Giving. Yes. And I tried all of them. And there were a few that I liked, and I can't afford them.

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Whatever. Looks like you're off.

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But I do like this one. This might be.

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You like this?

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I do like it. This might be my this could be your go-to? Well, no, not go-to.

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I'm still.

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Because typically Matt gives Matt gives parting against your champagne girl.

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You just I know, I missed it. Apparently it should have come in for the last segment.

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Putting a little water water in this makes a big difference. Oh, huge. I'd done it to rust. I'd move it to four or five.

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What? Four or five.

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Four or five.

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That's a loose new steal. Wow. So that even tells me that the bottle you brought last time was dog shit or the bottle we're drinking right now is amazing. I can't figure out the difference based on previous score.

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And that would actually go to 72 out of five.

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It's good. It's good.

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It's really good. Feel free to take this home with you. It's a parting gift to it from Matt's bottle. It's on that space. We have to zoom in on that when we have the five years perfect. And we didn't even do a cheer. So hey, cheers.

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Welcome, Brent. Welcome. Because everyone's so amped up and anxious to hear what your score is now. We've got the cheers. I forgot it.

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The segment's amazing. You match it up and start showing up more frequently. The viewers have spoken. You have to be here for this.

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The viewers have spoken.

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Matt did not do as good a job last time.

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No, I didn't.

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He did everything much better.

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Much better. Well, I mean, that's not part. Yeah, it's pretty good. He's a founder. I didn't even know I was going to do it. Neither did I. He's a founder. When you're a founder, you're a founder, I mean. It's in the job description. Yeah. Four or five. It's high. Four or five. I mean, it's good if it's a good one. It's a lot. Plus, Jazz picked it. So take that into account. Yeah, you take that into account. That's handpicked. Brownie points. A little brownie points. So I would think a non-JS is probably a little lower than this. You say four you said four, two, four, three. Yeah. I don't know. Shout out to it.

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We'd probably have to do a side by side.

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That would be kind of cool.

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All right.

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We'd have to get back to the bourbon segment. Can only be five to seven minutes. We're at the five and a half. Probably at the mark. Probably we're close. We're right on schedule. We're in develop.

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Yes.

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So when people say to me, to my wife, are you Josh's wife? They go, No, no, no. Josh is my husband. So which is the same thing with you, right?

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Uh may maybe. No, I don't know.

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Are you Mike Develo's wife? No, Mike's my husband.

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We're a good team.

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Good team?

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Yeah.

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So Mike is with these guys. He does all the uh the video and photography for the show. So they know them a long time. And so you guys have all so much video. Photos for the show. Yeah.

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Video for you.

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Video for me, yes. He did video for the dance place. Yes. Anyway. So you guys know each other a long time. Oh, long time. Big history. Way, way back. A lot of fun times. Yeah.

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Always fun.

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Way, way back. And now he told me that you're doing some really cool health, digestion, weight loss. Like you're doing some really cool stuff. And he's lost a ton of weight. He's lost a ton of weight. I've gained some weight. He's lost a ton of weight. Like everybody's, it's like a fad right now. And so you're super on trend with what these guys are all into.

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Yeah. Uh

A Family Health Journey Begins

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I've so I own Reminade. And that was my company before I moved to Arkansas. And um, we have five kids, which not a lot of people know, but um, because we only have two that live with us at the moment, the rest are all grown. But one of our sons uh is autistic, is high-functioning Asperger's, then had sensory processing disorder, also had Tourette's when he was younger, and um moved into some other more serious diagnoses as he got to be an adult. But so we've been doing nutrition for our family since like 2007, eight.

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And this was just like off the internet, you figured things out.

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I had a nutritionist friend that I worked with. Um, she went to a program called the Nutritional Therapy Association. And um, there's a couple different ones that you can go to if you're not gonna be a registered dietitian. Uh and so when we were going through all this, there was not a lot in that period of time for Asperger's. Because if you weren't fully autistic or on the low, the terms changed. I don't want to offend anybody, but like if you're not high functioning, you can't offend anybody on this podcast. Well, I know, but people watching, they get very they get very, I mean, there's and it's very personal choice whether you say you're a person with autism or if you are autistic, we chose to say autistic, but like at the time they were switching, they were getting rid of Asperger's from the DSM. Um, and so it was just autistic, but there's there's a very, very wide range. And so there wasn't a lot of tools for us with a high-functioning child. So I did tons of research. There wasn't much on the internet, everything was coming out of Australia. I was reading books, we were doing different diet plans, different supplements, like we went through everything. And so then people were like, Oh, well, what about for me? Should I do this? And I'd be like, Well, this that we're doing might not be for you. And so then I would start researching, like, but I came across this other thing while I was reading. And so here's something that might work, try it. And so then it got to the point where like everyone was asking me for advice, and Mike's like, Well, you should start charging for this because it's taking up all of your time. And I was like, Well, I'm just I'm just a mom.

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But you're trying to help too much to your own kid, like you. Yes, so then you're like, I've already read all this.

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Well, and when I met him, he was doing photography shoots for like a six-pack of beer. So I was the one that got him monetized, kind of, and started his own.

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So all his success is tied to you, which my wife would say something you ever say.

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100%. He um actually passed me off. Not passed me off, he recommended me for another job and they took me. And now he's like, I don't have you anymore. Um, but at that time there wasn't that much. So I was like, Well, I don't really feel like I'm qualified, I'm just a mom. Like, I'm just a mom who read a bunch of books, and I would say, here, read the book. And they don't have time to do that.

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But you educated yourself, and that's super important. I did.

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And so then I was like, Well, if I'm gonna start charging, I'm gonna get a certification. And so the certification I really wanted is called what I'm most proud of is my certified gaps practitioner certification. And it's a neurologist in England, not uh Natasha Campbell, started this diet for her son, and she did all the research, the clinical trials, and it's a very restrictive elimination diet, but it is for each individual person. And what I learned through the autism part of it was that if you meet a child with autism, you've met one child with autism. And what works for that one child is not going to spread over everything. So you have to find out what their triggers are, what their toxic load is. You have to find out all of these factors, and then you build a plan for that specific child. And so a lot of my cohorts are doing other things, they're working with different mediums like weight loss or um hormones or different things, and so they're able to package like a plan into like a DM me the word feel better, and I'll send you this PDF you can buy, and you'll feel better. And that's not ever what I've been able to do because I look at the foundations at each individual's like personal journey, and then also wellness really isn't fun for a lot of people. There's you have to cut out your favorite foods, you can't drink anymore, you have to get up and work out at a certain time of the day, you have to do all of these things and you feel like you're a slave to your routine, and you may or may not feel better, or you may or may not lose weight, or whatever your goals happen to be. So I've tried because I've worked with kids, I've worked with families who are trying to conceive again. Um that was my it was my son. Mike has two, I have one. And so that child really made us nervous to try and get pregnant again because the odds of having more children with the same behavioral or developmental delays are higher. So I did a whole plan for myself, for him, and we like worked through it. So, for the most part, our child with autism did get better until he started making his own choices and he went off the plan and then.

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So wait, wait, I'll bring up pause you. So sorry, no, no, no, it's great. So you have an autistic child who had been diagnosed, medicines, and then you put in from a nutritional standpoint, you gave him a thing to follow and he got much better just from changing his diet.

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He was mainstream back in normal classes, got rid of his, like he had a one-on-one shadow all of uh in sixth grade, I think. Um, but he was mainstream back into normal classes, and as long as he was on the food plan and not cheating, he was fine.

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And that food plan would have been specific to him because that would not have worked for the same autistic kid done.

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I mean, it I mean it could have. It could, you know, it could, but he was on, you know, where some people can have sourdough bread and some people never can, or some people can have potatoes again and some people can't.

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And so it's trial and error?

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No, it's it's I have like a 340 question like questionnaire that we start with, and then we build it on your preferences, your lifestyle habits. Um, and what you like, I'm not gonna tell somebody go run five miles if they don't like to run. I hate running. If I'm running, somebody's chasing me. But I will find things that I enjoy doing that that give me exercise, that give me movement, that get me out and doing things, but I'm not gonna tell somebody like like your sister or Bridget that doesn't like to walk. And she's like, we gotta find something else. I say, okay, let's find something else that we can do that you'll enjoy.

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Jim, got a question? John, well, you you I was gonna ask a question and Josh kind of jumped it. So, like, my fault. To me, no, no, no, it's okay. It's okay. Um, so you've done all this research, you've done reading. For each plan, it sounds like you're individualizing it a lot.

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Yes.

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So, how much of it is, I'm pretty sure that I can, knowing your needs and wants and preferences, I can prescribe and you're gonna go down this road and it's gonna be good, or how much of it is trial and error? Because I would imagine it's gotta be both.

Building Plans For Each Person

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Um with harder cases with with with uh like an autoimmune problem like lupus or Lyme disease, or uh the other one I do a lot of is the um Epstein bar, there is more trial and error because it's a it's a comorbidity situation where you have lots of different things that pile on. So autism is something, again, where there's a spectrum. So if it's somebody that's like, I my hormones are out of whack, I don't feel good, I want more energy, I would like to lose some weight, that is a standard. We're gonna start with nutrition, we're gonna start with your habits, and we're gonna find things that work in your lifestyle. So, like telling a single mom to get up earlier every day so that she can work out, that's not gonna work. Um, telling her to actually sit down with her kids at the table and eat with them instead of eating their leftovers after they've eaten what they want, that's something she can do. It's gonna be a harder habit to change, but there's a foundation of nutrition, hydration, like getting your cortisol rhythm and your circadian rhythm in more alignment that can work for everybody.

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And this is all self-taught.

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Like I mean, I went to school. I I've had I've had thousands of hours now of my own research plus getting certifications in three different things.

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Very impressive.

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So um I but it is very individualized as far as like someone tells me I'm never gonna eat a mushroom. Okay. So then I build them a food plan that does not include mushrooms. If they need meal planning help, if they need I had one lady, I gave her a whole meal plan and it was like weeks and weeks, and then she's like, I'm not feeling any better, I'm not feeling any better. And it turns out like I had asked her to like she was like, Oh, I'll eat at whatever, but she didn't know what it looked like at the store. So I went with her to the grocery store to give her a tour so she could find the foods that she needed to find. Like she didn't know what a beet looked like.

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Okay.

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And so we went to the grocery store and we walked through everything.

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And the different foods that you'll prescribe people. I use the word prescribe foods, they will literally have an impact on behavior.

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Yes.

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How? So

Food Choices That Change Behavior

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try to take your thousands of hours in multiple books and make it something so even even we at the table can understand.

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So, I mean, there's foods that have obviously different macronutrients, carbs and proteins and fats, and your body will run differently if you're eating more carbs, more protein, more fat. And so we've all had that kind of diet or experiment where you give up carbs for a week or a month or however long. Um but what I look at is you might have a set of symptoms that's related to maybe you don't have enough B vitamins or you're not getting enough of you know minerals, but you can't just obviously just take a mineral sometimes and fix it because there's a lot of supplements out there and they make them a lot of different ways. So if we're looking at blood sugar regulation and getting the metabolic crisis under control where your blood sugar is not skyrocketing and and plummeting every day, all day, you want to make sure that you're eating at the right times, that you're concentrated on your eating, that you're not watching TV or scrolling your phone or driving. Scrolling your phone, yeah.

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Sorry.

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Screen each way to call them out, bro. I appreciate it. No, no, I'm just saying like when you're advice.

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No, when you're eating, if you're concentrated on like just letting your parasympathetic nervous system do what it's supposed to do, that you're actually digesting your food and that you're giving your food nutrients that aren't packaged or dead or you know, like actual just I mean, and it's whatever you like, like wheat, steak, and burgers.

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It's like when you put your stuff in the microwave, it kills all the the nutrients in your feet.

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And so, and I've had clients that go way down the opposite, you know, thing where they're so scared to eat anything that then they're lost a lot of weight. Yeah, you gotta find out. Then you're like stressing yourself out, and then you're having like a stress response to the way you're eating. So it really is like I call it a food plan more than like a diet.

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So, and are these food plans are you exclusively working with people who are on the spectrum or have some sort of diagnosis, or is it anybody? And it just so happens maybe there's a specialty or a special approach that you use with.

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So

Fertility Nutrition Hormones And Peptides

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I started out thinking that autism would be my specialty. And then during my training, I I became very good at fertility nutrition and conception, and then like helping people, even if they're going through IVF or um, you know, even if they're using like medical interventions, helping the body support that because a lot of times like the women will get through all that, and then they just have like a complete breakdown on the other side that then we have to build back in all of those nutrients that they've lost.

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So it's almost like a holistic approach of diet to help you achieve goals.

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Yes. Yeah, and I supplement, and there's people that want the magic pill and they want you know the fast track, and that can happen, and there's tools for that. And we have peptides now on the market that are doing great things.

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Peptide Bobby. Peptide Bobby.

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I mean, I take peptides and I mean, well, it's they've been around forever and there's great research for them. But so you're a fan of peptides? I am. Um, I don't use them as a magic pill. It's kind of like I know you're into cars. So, like if you have a really great sports car and you don't have any gas, the car doesn't do you any good. So a peptide is this really great tool, but if your body isn't prepared to use it or it's not prepared after you stop using them, like what happens?

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Right. It's so you like set them up for long term. It's just like anything, right? I mean, whether you do weight loss surgery or peptides or the Atkins diet or this or that, or just try to change your lifestyle, if you're not if you're not doing the other work, yes, eating healthy, being active, so on and so forth, there is no magic bullet.

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I mean, eventually you're gonna stop taking it. 100%.

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It's not sustainable.

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It's just that as a yo-yo diet.

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Right. Or worse, right. Right.

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So when I'm working with clients, like weight loss is usually something that a lot of my clients will say is a goal. And I say, that's great, we'll get there. However, there are people that have had like an emotional trauma and they've put on weight, and your body's never gonna let go if it doesn't feel safe. So you have to give it the nutrients that it needs so that it will let go of that weight. So there's a lot of lifestyle, nutrition, and using the proper tools that go with it.

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Do

How Reminade Works With Clients

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you have is it your own company, your own business? Work out of home or you have an office?

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I do, I work out, I just work from home.

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So people are trying to find you or connect with you websites and so remonade.com.

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Spell it r-E-M-O-N I A D E.

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So not like lemonade.com.

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It's like a remedy and an A together.

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I like it. I like that.

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So it's kind of like my little like I'm a remedy for whatever. Life hands you.

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All right. So I find you on the website, I show up, and I do we do a studation.

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We do. I can meet in person, but I do a lot of my stuff over the over like Zoom or a video call or over the phone. I have clients all over the country. Um, and the initial plan really is set you up for like success. A lot of people don't ever come back, or that's my problem, is that I just get you too well. I'm supposed to space it out. But I give you a full comprehensive plan and then you can come to me for questions and I bill for follow-ups.

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So if we said talk to our seven to twelve listeners right now, give them the 10-second elevator speech of why they should call you and reach out.

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I mean, for anybody who's needs more energy, who would like to feel better, who would like to sleep better, um, I'm getting into perimenopause now myself. So there's a lot of new challenges that come with that and balancing your hormones as you get older and going through like all the other changes. Um, and so a lot of it I've realized you can help with simple tweaks. Very, very simple tweaks that don't require a ton of money and a ton of supplements.

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But um so do you do you per are you able to with your degrees, are you able to like to prescribe them and go get blood work and then you review the blood work, or do you I'm not a doctor tell them to like partner with their doctor and then you help them because a lot of times salt health, like to be able to use some of the stuff. Take salt health out of it because that's a whole different thing, right? Like, like a lot of times you go to your normal primary doctor and you get a blood test, and they're like, Oh yeah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you're like, I don't even know what to do with this information. So it'd be great to have someone like yourself who you could understand that information because there's so much information there and how to act on it, is I guess my point.

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So, as a FNTP, which is my functional nutritional therapy practitioner, I am not a doctor and I can't treat, diagnose, prevent, or cure any diseases. However, that information is really helpful looking at the big picture and seeing where the lab ranges are.

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Right.

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And there will be people that will say that those are not the optimal lab ranges that they put on there. So when they tell you you're in the normal range, it means you're in the average. Right. But everyone else who's come in to get that, but they'll say, like, you're, you know, you're in the you're in the average range. But that's only the people that have gone and taken that specific test. Right. And it's not like everyone, and it's not where they would optimally like to be. Right.

SPEAKER_01

So, you know, so do you take like a patient and you say, Hey, go get your blood test, and then you create a plan off of that.

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I can have them go and talk to their doctor and see what they're and see what there is. But I'm technically not allowed to read blood work. But I mean, but seeing it myself and seeing where they are in the average helps you does help when I'm looking at other factors, right? And and then saying, like, if they need to be under the care of a doctor or get, you know, or or have, you know, additional labs done, um, I can suggest that, but I can't recommend any of that.

SPEAKER_02

So is there a target audience for you? I mean, who is who are the right clients to be reaching out to?

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Um, I do a lot of work with fertility, I do a lot of work with hormones in general, and then um also with anybody that has an autoimmune problem or out, like like when we did the plan with our son who was eight or seven, Mike said we aren't gonna put a seven-year-old on a restrictive diet and then eat everything that we like to eat in front of him. So we're all doing it.

SPEAKER_01

So we've done that with Natalie. Like it's it's just easier to make it all the same. Well, and when you're taking out like we together, having them this random plate, and we're like, good luck.

SPEAKER_00

So Mike's asthma and allergies went away. He did not need his rescue inhaler at all anymore. Um, my I had Graves disease, and um it completely like my thyroid levels went completely normal again.

SPEAKER_02

Um But what were you eating? Like what

Gut Health GAPS Diet And Gluten

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things were?

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So at that time we were on the gaps diet, which is um a lot of fermented foods. Basically, you're resealing your gut and repopulating your gut flora so that you're not in like you're not crossing. We had no gluten, no potatoes, no beans, no carbs, no bread, nothing. Like we took all so it was meat, vegetables, fruit. But it was kind of tense in the house and lots of soup and lots of fermented.

SPEAKER_01

But you know what though? Like, I mean, uh you lost me on fermented, right? But kimchi.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. No, no, I'm with you.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, but like like when you go to the diet you just explained, like it's the one of the best diets you like all that processed and and high gluten stuff, it's it's not it's not meant for us.

SPEAKER_00

But you know, but you know, going outside the US, you can eat anything and you feel fine at a lot of those places. So there's some argument for what else we're putting in our food supply here, yeah. That you can go here and drink.

SPEAKER_01

But yes, um, and now we I mean, if I if I'll be honest, if I went to Italy and ate pasta all day, I'd put on another hundred pounds. It just like to your point earlier, is every person's different and how they react to different foods, right? And I hear it all the time, right? Oh, I went to Italy and I drank the wine and I ate the pasta and I lost weight. Probably because you were walking 15,000 steps a day, right? But you know, if I went to Italy and sat around all day and ate pasta and wine, I'm gonna be putting down weight. That's just me personally, yeah. Right? And didn't walk. But the gluten's a big difference too. The North American US-based food was just cooking that like we found with Natalie's, like just cooking everything and like knowing every ingredient because we couldn't you couldn't do any boxed anything because everything has weight, and we couldn't either, and that like once we started eating that way, you you you do feel a lot of that. And when you did something, and then you know everything that you put in.

SPEAKER_00

And then my sister was a big one. She was like, I'm not ever giving up my comfort food. Well, when I finally, after years, got her on a plan. Now she'll go back and cheat and she'd be like, it wasn't worth it.

SPEAKER_02

Well, it's the comfort food, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like hers, like it's just bread and cheese, and okay, not cheese, bread. Hers is gluten, so she has a gluten and uh I mean, and she's the same way.

SPEAKER_01

You could put the most amazing thing in front of her and she won't touch it.

SPEAKER_02

But that's new for her, right? The gluten stuff less. It's how many years did she know?

SPEAKER_01

And she struggled like for all her life, and I would say probably eight months now, maybe going on a year, she won't she won't do it. Will she has not cheated at all?

SPEAKER_00

Well, it's crazy when you because it makes her sick, like literally makes her sick. How the fake food doesn't taste the same anymore.

SPEAKER_01

And and sometimes like we'll go to certain restaurants here in town, and they are they offer homemade pasta with simple, simple ingredients, and that flour has gluten in it, right? Like just like you do when you go to Italy. Same exact recipe, right? That will make her upset, her stomach upset, versus a gluten-free pasta, which is also homemade as well, too, and it doesn't upset her stomach. So, so so like some people that gluten actually, even though it's you know, I don't know if maybe it is natural, right? Okay, thank you, right? Even though gluten is natural, just because it's natural doesn't mean that it's good for you for that individual. It's like, hey, I'm allergic to fish. I mean, what's more healthier than a piece of salmon or a piece of grouper or something? I cannot physically eat it. It'll put me in the hospital.

SPEAKER_02

You've lost a hundred pounds.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, you look great. Thank you. Very good. Go on the gym bag. Maybe if we took Josh off Gluten, it wouldn't be so angry. That could be a teacher.

SPEAKER_00

Let's do a clinical trial. Oh, clinical trial study.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, maybe hold us.

SPEAKER_04

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

SPEAKER_02

Whoa. Whoa. What other questions to you off print?

SPEAKER_01

No, I I think what you're doing is amazing. And I think I love the approach of you take each individual. Yes, right, because what works for me might not work for him, and what works for him may not work for like it's a very catered approach. It's nothing's gonna work for me. I think you you you now like us. Bridget doesn't like to walk. Well, don't tell her to walk. Yeah. Tell what does she like to do? It's like Brent said, like, it's better to for people to tell you, yes, look, this is a non-negotiable. Right. Yeah, because it's sustainable.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and Mike's was his was I'm not gonna give up drinking and I'm not gonna give up coffee. But I said, okay.

SPEAKER_02

Yep, I'll work with that dude. So you just have to cut from something else.

SPEAKER_01

If you know last year, God knows I haven't given up drinking nor coffee. God knows. Well, that's now that's all I've cut. I've cut back, right? You know, do I drink as much as what I used to? Absolutely not. Yeah. And you know, I probably have one cup of coffee a day instead of you know, all the creamer and all the sweeteners. And Ange makes my coffee, and I don't even think she puts sweeteners in there anymore. Um, but because I made my own coffee this morning, I was like, damn, that's good. It's like, whoa!

SPEAKER_02

Like, whoa, hold on a second.

SPEAKER_01

I put my two two uh sweeteners and my normal splash of sweetener. I was like, whoo. She's putting nothing in it. It's all black. I think she's got me. I I think she's got me way scaled back. I was like, that tastes a little different. You're drinking coffee on the floor of your shower? No, that's Matthew. Yeah, no, that's a whole lot.

SPEAKER_03

Now, is there have there been any in your readings and stuff, any studies that have shown a correlation between hosting and and you know losing weight or feeling better? Because

Sleep Circadian Rhythm And Accountability

SPEAKER_03

Josh could certainly stand to host more.

SPEAKER_00

Host at his house?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for an essential. Invite people over.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, I do think that community and getting together with people actually does lower your career.

SPEAKER_02

I love to get together at Jim's house.

SPEAKER_00

What big fan? I don't think it's specifically hosting. I think just giving it to the city.

SPEAKER_02

Just community.

SPEAKER_04

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Like my new neighborhood now has wine night Wednesdays, and it's all the moms in there. It's brilliant. And it's like the thing I look forward to all week.

SPEAKER_03

Does it host one night Wednesday at Josh Saffron's house? Yeah, fantastic.

SPEAKER_02

We can host at my business all day long.

SPEAKER_01

I've been invited one time in the VIP lounge. I'm not allowed in there.

SPEAKER_00

I heard you were stealing bourbon out of the private sandwich though.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah. The girl almost got fired. Oh, you've heard that story. That story is now renowned. It's gotten around Bentonville. Yeah, I'll show you some pictures. This poor girl went home and cried. Shout out to Lauren.

SPEAKER_04

Well.

SPEAKER_01

Shout up. Uh well, there you have it. Do do what works for you. Do what works for you. So basically, you have people call you or set up a ZM and they say these are the things I want to change about my body or my lifestyle or my eating habits. Yes. Here's show me the path. And that's what you help.

SPEAKER_00

That's what I do. Especially with a condition or a diagnosis from a doctor that the doctor's like, well, there's nothing really we can do.

SPEAKER_01

Or fertility. You know, you are I mean that that's a proven like that's proven. Like if someone's having a hard time, you know, conceiving, not just the the the woman, the male as well, too.

SPEAKER_00

I do, I do both.

SPEAKER_01

It it's a proven deal when they lose weight, it helps them. Yeah, or stop smoking. Every 35 pounds, make it happen. Every 35 pounds, it's another inch there. So let's play this. Let's play this.

SPEAKER_02

Sorry. Oh, jeez. Let's play this cardboard. Let's play this.

SPEAKER_01

So Matthew calls you up and says it enters the room before he does. Sorry, you're the third podcast. So we're I am married to Mike Develo.

SPEAKER_00

So this is nothing.

SPEAKER_01

He's where you're Mike sitting out there in the window.

SPEAKER_02

He's like, so let's get it back on track here. So Matthew Mars calls you up, Sprin. I'm going through this. I have this situation, that I'm going through this, my home life, my weight, my drink, whatever. Cheer camp. Cheer.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I'm now a cheer mic.

SPEAKER_02

Cheer camp.

SPEAKER_00

Rome made the squad yesterday.

SPEAKER_02

So like you're gonna ask a lot of questions to him. He's gonna volunteer information, and then from that point on.

SPEAKER_00

So then from that point on, we work together to figure out what you like to eat, what you like to do, what kind of things we can change. And there are people that say nothing. And I'm like, I don't know why you're still paying me for it because you're not doing anything I'm telling you, but I'll still take it. Um, and I used to do like a like a monthly subscription where it was like pretty much like I was available at any point. So like for people who really needed a lot of hand holding, they could call and text me and I would say, you know, or I plan their meals for the week, but I would take out I have a I have a program where I can take out you're allergic to fish. I don't like asparagus. I'm not gonna eat this ingredient, and I don't eat condiments. And we would take it out and give you something that you could plan for, and however you're going to get that, whether you're gonna make it yourself, whether you're gonna buy it at the store, whether you're gonna have somebody come in and cook for you, um, all of those things kind of factor into it. And then sleeping habits, digestion.

SPEAKER_01

That's a big one too. Sleep is sleep is key.

SPEAKER_00

So big, so big.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, like like what you said earlier, like it it's a piece of the puzzle, right? You gotta have all the pieces to complete it.

SPEAKER_00

Well, and just like with peptides, there's you know, cortisol and melatonin work together and there's a circadian rhythm. And we're not gonna change, we can't biohack our way out of the sunshine in the morning, wakes you up and starts your cortisol. So let's work with that. Get yourself fueled for the morning. Don't skip breakfast and lunch and then eat a big dinner and then expect you're gonna sleep well.

SPEAKER_02

Well, let me ask questions. So you going back to this Mad Center, so you guys go through all this stuff, you you provide a diet, you provide all these things, and he comes back three weeks later and nothing has changed. Now, are you going through like I prescribe these things? Are you at 60% compliant, 50% compliant? I hope so.

SPEAKER_00

Have him do a food and mood journal so that we can track how often you're eating, what like time and it's happening. Not like, not like, oh, that was an F on that deal. I I make my own noof jerky. It's delicious.

SPEAKER_01

Um met at torque cheese. My mood was much better. I had three beers. The mood was amazing. No, that's all fine.

SPEAKER_00

That's all fine. But how often you're eating and then how you feel like people will track, like how they felt that day.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, when you start tracking, it changes the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, because the reality is the reality is if they're not following what you're prescribing to them, the results are not going to be there. So, but you have to hold them accountable. Yeah, right. Because otherwise, you're gonna be a point, Brandon I'm paying you a lot of money, it's not working. Well, you're not doing it. Yeah, yes. So, how's that conversation?

SPEAKER_01

You gotta be honest with yourself, number one. If you can't be honest with yourself, then you might as well.

SPEAKER_00

I've had clients where they didn't do anything I told them, right, and they continued to come back and pay me month after month. And what I realized was it was the actual like having somebody listen to that part. It became more of a therapy thing for them. And eventually they did make small changes. And so as they started making changes, and and my sister's a good reason. I great example, like it took 10 years for her, and I kept saying, No, I don't want to be your I don't want to be your nutritionist because you're not gonna like it for a bit. And she had horrible migraines, she has endometriosis, she has you know, she's in the army, she had to get a lot of different shots and medical interventions that she didn't want to, and so supporting her body through that eventually we got to the point where she was like, Oh, this is what it's like to feel good, and then getting her to make bigger changes became easier. Interesting, and so now she's at the point where, but you know, she's feeling great, she sleeps great, she feels good. She's probably not the size she wants to be yet, but you know, she's healthy and she's feeling better, and so all of that makes it so she's really there's a light at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_01

No, everyone, there's always some pie in the sky that you try to read.

SPEAKER_00

I I almost moved to France one year because the guy was like, Oh, you're not like these American girls. You're you're like, you've got some weight on you and you look great. And I was like, Oh, apparently I'm in the wrong country.

SPEAKER_03

Is that a compliment? It was a compliment, but I was like, Oh, I guess I'm just there's something to be said for like having victories, even small ones, and then the impact of compounding those victories. So I think you're you're putting people on the right track, and I think that's great.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's awesome because you're changing people's lives.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and I that's really what I got into it for. And I was gonna give away everything for free. So thank God for Mike Developer.

SPEAKER_02

Thank God for Mike Developer. So last parting words, and then we'll hit the website one more time.

Practical Tips Offers And Closing Cheers

SPEAKER_00

Right. Well, I mean, I I well I don't have any parting words on it.

SPEAKER_01

I have to change people's lives.

SPEAKER_00

I do, I do want to change people to the and I want them to have the power. I would like to educate people on how to feel better. Yes. So I do a lot of education and a lot of talking, clearly.

SPEAKER_01

Don't walk down the aisles in the grocery store, stay on the perimeter.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, there's a lot of good stuff in the middle.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I can't.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, Whole Foods got me the other day. I've been there. I spent my whole paycheck at Whole Foods the other day.

SPEAKER_02

And I apologize for Matt making noise at the table. We had to get him stepped away from the table. It was I can't take it to it right now.

SPEAKER_01

There's something swinging down there.

SPEAKER_02

I can't take any credit, but I apologize.

SPEAKER_00

But it is Reminade. So R-E-M-O-N-A-I-D-E, like remedy and an aid together.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And there's a little bit of my thing is a little fresh lemon. So it is kind of like a lemonade.

SPEAKER_02

Rob, you have your closing question because I feel like you want to ask if the B team podcast caller calls up or dials in and says, Bryn.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Heard about you on the on the B Team podcast. Uh, what would the little offer be?

SPEAKER_04

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

Like 10% off. Uh free consultation. Free consultation.

SPEAKER_00

Well, free consultation always. I mean, if they want a photo with Mike Devell, that's always LinkedIn.

SPEAKER_01

From Mike Little.

SPEAKER_00

I I think you guys need a new one. I think you guys need a new photo.

SPEAKER_01

Josh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, no, I like the logo, but I think you guys need a new photo.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. All the photo on the phone.

SPEAKER_04

We need updated.

SPEAKER_00

Um, no, I could do $100 off the initial plane.

SPEAKER_04

Ooh.

SPEAKER_01

A hundred. A hundred. Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I could get you guys some little casino chips so you could pass them out for me.

SPEAKER_01

So, what would you do for Matt Mars if he signs up to you?

SPEAKER_00

Well, Matt's a friend. Matt gets $50 off. It's all right. I'll give it to you for freebie.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, freebie, Matthew. Matthew loves freebies. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I know he does. He's a Mars.

SPEAKER_02

He's a big fan of his marks.

SPEAKER_01

Only if Matt will share his journaling with us.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Can we see his journaling? I'd pay.

SPEAKER_00

A lot of my male clients don't actually do the journals.

SPEAKER_01

Matt would. Matt would definitely do it. You know, so I've I I have done that before because Carrie was like, well, what do you what are you eating if you want to try to lose weight? You start writing all that down and you're like, oh man, this is a lot more than I remembered. I can tell you exactly what I ate so far today. Tell us, Bobby, uh at 7:20, I had my Greek yogurt, berries, raspberries, and then halfway. Did you make that for you? No, I did after the gym at 6 a.m. And then halfway through the day, I have had two oranges and two apples. And I'm gonna call you bullshit. I swear to God. I just saw you a piece of chicken. Let's go! I'm off. I'm off there. And seven barbers. Yeah, chicken and ping bones. That's the stuff you start adding on the bottom. I forgot the chicken. I forgot the chicken. You're like, maybe I'm not doing two thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_00

It's always the stuff that you like didn't plan for. It's like, oh, I'm gonna grab a handful of this sitting at the end.

SPEAKER_03

In fairness, food and drink during podcasts don't count.

SPEAKER_01

Once we come in this room, it's it's the podcast isn't over, so we haven't ended it.

SPEAKER_00

I will say with the kids, I have created monsters with the two younger ones because they were on whole food, like real food their entire lives. And now, and I'm like, what do you guys want for lunch tomorrow? And Rowan says, I'll have like those prosciutto rolls with like the garlic or cream cheese.

SPEAKER_02

But he's how old?

SPEAKER_00

Um, she's 11.

SPEAKER_02

11. Oh god.

SPEAKER_00

And then she goes in and like a little Capre salad and some um island cucumbers with the mauled on sea salt. They get they go to school with mauled on sea salt and they're lunch.

SPEAKER_02

I don't even know what that is.

SPEAKER_00

It's like really expensive. It sells it. It's good. It's delicious.

SPEAKER_01

Yep. Oh I love salt. Yeah. Well, cheers. Thank you so much for coming in. Cheers, cheers, cheers, cheers.